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  • #1
When my wife got her Samsung Galaxy 10e I noticed how bad my pictures actually looked on my phone. I have tried cleaning my lens and what not but everything yet seems blurry/smudged compared to her pictures. Is there a style to upward the quality or does the 10e just accept a meliorate camera?
  • #ii
Well yes, realistically the S10e does take a better camera, particularly if you're using the V30'due south stock camera app.
  • #3
would the 10e app be able to proceed the v30?
  • #4
would the 10e app be able to proceed the v30?
You lot can't employ the 10e app on the v30, I was talking well-nigh the GCam port. Still fifty-fifty so, I call back 10e should be better. Maybe not by much, but information technology's simply simply a superior sensor.
  • #v
Got it, cheers very much ^_^
BROKEN1981
  • #6
Well yeah, realistically the S10e does accept a improve photographic camera, specially if you're using the V30'south stock photographic camera app.
Yous can't use the 10e app on the v30, I was talking about the GCam port. Withal fifty-fifty then, I think 10e should be amend. Maybe not past much, simply it's simply just a superior sensor.

The stock camera app is way amend and so G-Cam port.

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BROKEN1981
  • #7
When my married woman got her Samsung Milky way 10e I noticed how bad my pictures actually looked on my phone. I have tried cleaning my lens and what non but everything withal seems blurry/smudged compared to her pictures. Is at that place a fashion to upwardly the quality or does the 10e just take a ameliorate camera?
Accept you tried putting on AI? These are old photograph just trying out the AI. It'southward backed upwards to Google photos at reduced quality.

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  • #8
The stock camera app is way better then One thousand-Cam port.
Most definitely not. Information technology has more features, it has a manual mode and the video is unarguably ameliorate, just the gcam kills it with pic quality.
There hasn't been a unmarried scenario in my entire time using this phone where the stock app was ameliorate.
BROKEN1981
  • #9
Nigh definitely not. It has more features, information technology has a transmission mode and the video is unarguably better, merely the gcam kills it with pic quality.
There hasn't been a unmarried scenario in my entire time using this phone where the stock app was better.
Hahahaha awesome joke. Thanks!

If information technology was sooooo good, custom ROM's users would non be begging for the stock LG photographic camera app to get ported.

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  • #ten
Hahahaha awesome joke. Thanks!

If it was sooooo good, custom ROM'southward users would non be begging for the stock LG camera app to become ported.

Like I said, more features (manual mode) and better video recording. Gcam doesn't back up 4k video for the V30.
But photo quality better in the stock app? Yeah, in your dreams...
BROKEN1981
  • #xi
Like I said, more than features (transmission mode) and ameliorate video recording. Gcam doesn't back up 4k video for the V30.
Merely photo quality better in the stock app? Aye, in your dreams...
We hold to disagree.

I personally want to accept the best photos I can, and so I utilize stock LG camera app. Many others who run custom ROM's feel the same and would rather have the LG camera app then One thousand-Cam.

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ChazzMatt
  • #12
Similar I said, more features (manual mode) and improve video recording. Gcam doesn't back up 4k video for the V30.
Simply photograph quality improve in the stock app? Yep, in your dreams...
Gcam has historically had issues. Greenish tint on forepart photographic camera, wearisome to process successive shots. Crashing. No seamless switching between lenses.

None of that applies or has always practical to LG camera.

I've kept upwardly with all the threads. I'm the 1 who told cstark to start his own photographic camera thread since so much interest was beingness shown for his versions. Heady times dorsum so.

Aye, those problems are being/have been addressed in near recent Gcam versions -- but it's also a pain to find those versions that work.

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Stock LG camera of course has transmission mode. Meet screenshot. For ease of utilise + excellent pictures, LG photographic camera is better than any Gcam.

In that location are some instances (low lite) you lot can have superior pictures to LG cam -- but I've seen tons of adjacent shots on LG V30 Telegram thread where LG cam was as good every bit Gcam. You lot could not tell the divergence.

IF you can take two cameras, certain -- add Gcam also if y'all want to experiment. But I will NEVER accept Gcam as my only camera on my LG V30.

If I can but take 1 photographic camera, I want LG camera. Simply on custom ROMs, you tin only take one camera and information technology can Non be LG photographic camera.

One of the well-nigh frequent questions in the custom ROM threads is "how do I become LG camera dorsum?"

I used to run custom ROMs all the time, but on those previous phones I could still take the stock camera as well.

I empathise the involvement in Gcam, and the expectation porting it will come up same superior photographic camera capability Pixels have.

But I don't take a lot of low light time lapse pictures. I go on my LG camera in AI auto mode and I'm using Anxious V30 camera mods., which give me avant-garde features of G8/V40. Then, it's not exactly "stock" LG photographic camera.

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  • #xiii
I'm sorry guys, merely it seems that my experience has been very different to yours. I couldn't observe a single scenario where the stock app had a better photo.
Comparable? Aye. But in most of the cases the Gcam had more accurate colors, better dynamic range (losing less item in shadows and highlights), and just overall more detailed photograph when pixel peeping.
This is when using the new AI mode, otherwise there was no competition, since the stock cam can't even go close to the google's HDR+. And in the night? Yeah, the Gcam trumps it.

If you lot can prove me incorrect, please do, I'yard actually interested. Brand a comparison.
I'll also meet if I tin snap a few interesting photos.

  • #fourteen
Ok, hither are two serial of photos. You be the judge.

GCam HDR+:

Stock Auto:

Stock AI:

Now offset of all, let me just say the AI manner surprised me a trivial bit here, while the stock auto is completely trash (in these examples), so I'll not even compare information technology.
In the first serial of photos there's not much departure really, but yous tin see more details in the GCam , specially in the building in the altitude, the road etc.
The trees (on the left) do look a bit better on the stock AI, but the colors are much ameliorate and more realistic looking on the GCam overall.

Now for a wide angle shot.

GCam HDR+:

Stock Automobile:

Stock AI:

At present here is what I'grand talking about. I cannot discover a single way in which the stock cam is ameliorate than GCam here.
It'due south non even a comparing. If you lot accept better optics, please point it out for me.

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ChazzMatt
  • #15
When my married woman got her Samsung Galaxy 10e I noticed how bad my pictures really looked on my phone. I have tried cleaning my lens and what non but everything still seems blurry/smudged compared to her pictures. Is there a way to upwardly the quality or does the 10e just have a improve camera?

Samsung and LG compete with each other for all-time camera -- with Pixels and iPhones also. At least best rear camera. Long been noted the 2017 V30 selfie photographic camera was not great -- but LG did improve information technology with software updates (portrait style, etc) in latter Oreo updates compare to Nougat release.

However, the Samsung Galaxy S10e is a 2019 telephone. It's probably going to be somewhat better, because better technology. But LG V30 camera is notwithstanding good. If your pictures look horrible in comparing, maybe something is wrong with your phone?

Also, what firmware are y'all using? You lot want at least the latest Oreo firmware for the photographic camera upgrades vs Nougat.

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Ok, here are two series of photos. You be the judge.

GCam HDR+:

Stock Motorcar:

Stock AI:

Now beginning of all, allow me merely say the AI fashion surprised me a trivial bit here, while the stock auto is completely trash (in these examples), so I'll non fifty-fifty compare it.
In the offset series of photos there's non much departure actually, but y'all can see more details in the GCam , especially in the edifice in the distance, the road etc.
The trees (on the left) do look a bit better on the stock AI, merely the colors are much better and more realistic looking on the GCam overall.


I use AI Machine fashion, and I use Anxious V30 mod -- which ported features from G8/V40. So, my LG Camera is not fully stock. ;)

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PREFACE
I work professionally in circulate video. I take been a video editor and producer. My job right now involves QC of video content from a multifariousness of TV networks -- so I accept seen a lot of video effects, processing. I empathize cinematographers on films sometimes want a washed out, darker look if the script deals with depressing content. ("The Accidental Tourist" used muted colour scheme because the protagonist close downwardly his emotions due to murder of his son and subsequent divorce. Nevertheless an amazing movie.) I sympathize brighter, more vibrant colors are called for in adventure movies similar "Romancing the Stone". Both of these are creative decisions.

Yet, I also know big box stores sell HD TVs nether fluorescent lighting in "demo" mode where all colors are oversaturated because the the display with the most color is deemed the "winner". :rolleyes: When I get a new Television set habitation or assistance a friend with a new TV, I have to calibrate the brightness, colors and chroma intensity to be "realistic" and then content can be viewed how it was actually meant to be seen.

I worked for YEARS for a worldwide news arrangement, so when I see their news studios on TV I know exactly how they should await based upon seeing them in real life.

My betoken is, I'm an amateur lensman, but I accept professional experience in a related field. ;)

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Yous noted the first series of photos don't accept much difference, but that's the only ones I accept had fourth dimension to await at. I'm non ignoring the second prepare, I will look at them subsequently.

I'thousand but going to discuss GCam and the AI Cam, which is what I utilize.

On my desktop PC monitor with "full resolution" of the pictures called on that website, between the two:

  • The parked red machine looks the same in both. The parked green automobile looks the same in both.
    TIE.
  • The yellowish edifice facade looks more "vibrant" yellow in GCam -- but without seeing in person, is it really that brighter shade or is information technology the slightly duller shade in existent life? Plus, it is an overcast twenty-four hours.
    Do y'all WANT the yellowish facade to "POP" out like that compared to the surrounding buildings, if it doesn't naturally? If and then, and so that'due south a creative decision.
  • The light-green foliage on the left and right and on the bushes down the street await more "realistic" green, more than "natural" with LG Camera. My opinion. The Gcam looks slightly off. Just again, I did not see the scene in person. POSSIBLE WIN FOR LG CAM.

Since my trend is toward realistic, you see what I'm getting at?

At present if these were "dusk" shots and you wanted to compensate for the lower light, the brighter facade would win and the off-color of the leaf wouldn't matter so much.

I will have to expect at the other set of pictures later.

While I was intensely interested in GCam (I was at that place at the commencement here in V30 forum when cstark make his ports), the bug really bothered me: Green tint on front camera (aka perpetual "Matrix" mode), slow to procedure or crashing on quick successive shots. No seamless switching betwixt lenses. Early editions needed three dissimilar shortcuts to launch which photographic camera you wanted!

Ane of the most frequent questions besides how to get LG Photographic camera on custom ROMs was how to observe a good version of GCam with the to the lowest degree issues. I've actually helped people with that based on other users recommendations, but I besides understood information technology was because those people were FORCED to use Gcam.

Due to all this I decided a long time agone when I needed to take a motion-picture show, I was going with the trusted stock camera.

In the meanwhile, LG kept improving the stock camera with Oreo updates (utilize at least the last Oreo) and so TotallyAnxious released her Magisk mod which included LG stock camera features/improvements based on G8/V40 updated photographic camera. She kept improving that with updates through the months.

I understand nearly recent Gcam versions (last couple of months) take solved the early on issues, only for me I don't see whatever reason to switch.

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  • #16
@ChazzMatt Just wanted to discuss these points:
- Both the red and the green car are oversaturated on the AI cam.
- The GCam's white residual is much closer to truthful life (I was in that location lol), AI cam is manner off.
- The yellow parts are oversaturated on the GCam, that's truthful, but the AI cam is not accurate either, information technology'due south more than similar something in between. Though I could accept toned downwardly the saturation in the GCam settings, I prefer it this manner.
- If you open up the photos in a new window (after loading the total res) then y'all will actually get the full resolution. Zoom in and you offset to pick up differences, eg. how the AI cam simply destroys the detail in some parts of the photo, equally I said in the first post.

I know yous said you lot adopt the realistic wait, but in these two series of photos, the stock cam is all over the place with the white balance and saturation is non accurate either (just cheque the blue street sign in the 2d photo and also the cars).
The greens on the trees practise look more than accurate on the stock cam, but that'due south almost it, as I come across it.
I'll always take better details, only in these examples the stock doesn't beat GCam with the overall accuracy either.

The GCam did accept a lot of issues in the beggining only a couple of latest versions work perfectly without any problems I could detect.

If non being able to swith lenses while the image is processing is an issue, and then I guess in that location's that, lol.

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And this is all day fourth dimension photography, at night the GCam is on a whole new level.

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  • #17
I like the way Gcam does HDR+ highlights. I practice not like the black crush. ( I am however fooling with settings to address this)The pictures tend to be vivid though, (and i think, a bit more compelling) from the gcam. I practise not await photos from a phone to supplant those from a proper photographic camera, simply I would eke out the all-time quality I tin can. I took a quick photograph in the front yard with stock cam, and gcam in HDR, and HDR+ respectively. You tin can see some nasty color banding in the LG in the sky, very unnatural.
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These were taken with the G7. I have non all the same picked a gcam for the v30. That is unless Mr. Chazz could be convinced to part with an Anxious module....:D Past the fashion, if video is important to you lot at all, I encourage you to try opencam, and the HEVC codec. Worlds of difference in clarity. In particular, the wide photographic camera stock nearly looks out of focus in comparison to opencam.

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